{"id":110367,"date":"2022-12-16T12:01:55","date_gmt":"2022-12-16T11:01:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/?p=110367"},"modified":"2022-12-16T12:25:14","modified_gmt":"2022-12-16T11:25:14","slug":"when-victims-became-heroes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/110367-when-victims-became-heroes.html","title":{"rendered":"When victims became heroes"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Anybody in the field of international justice knows American human rights lawyer Reed Brody, sometimes strangely known as \u201cthe dictator hunter\u201d. A shrewd and creative lawyer, unrelenting activist, gifted communicator and story-teller, Brody has a book out: To Catch a Dictator, The Pursuit and Trial of Hiss\u00e8ne Habr\u00e9. And he is the guest of our partners at Asymmetrical Haircut. With his usual mix of idealism and pragmatism, he tells the story of how victims and human rights groups worked alongside in their decades-long quest for truth and accountability. He shares his memories, lessons learned, and views on the future of international justice. If you don\u2019t believe (almost) anything is possible, then listen and maybe Brody will change your mind.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"> <em> <em>To listen to the podcast, click on the \"play\" button below:<\/em> <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/id\/92240522?cache=1671105230#darkOrLight-Light&shownotes-ffffff&download-ffffff&subscribe-ffffff&share-382e2c&shownotesBackground-ffc72c&downloadBackground-382e2c&subscribeBackground-9b9593&shareBackground-ffffff\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"150px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p>The 25-year-long journey to bring a dictator to justice \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/39244-reed-brody-we-have-the-power-to-bring-you-to-justice.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Reed Brody<\/a> came in to talk about his book <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Catch-Dictator-Pursuit-Trial-Hiss%C3%A8ne-ebook\/dp\/B09X25SY23\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">To Catch a Dictator, The Pursuit and Trial of Hiss\u00e8ne Habr\u00e9<\/a><\/em>. With a long career as a lawyer for Human Rights Watch, Reed tells the story of how he worked alongside victims and human rights groups in their quest for truth and accountability. This ended when the former Chad dictator was found guilty of rape, sexual slavery, and the killing of over 40,000 citizens in a hybrid tribunal in Senegal.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But besides the title of \u2018dictator-hunter\u2019 that the media (bless \u2019em) assigned to Reed\u2019s life-long work, he highlights the work and strength of the victims, who \u201cbecame characters in their own rights\u201d. Reed tells how survivors of torture and sexual and gender-based violence showed up in court to speak directly to their offender.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Expanding the timeline, Reed explains how it was Nicaragua that got him interested in law during conflicts, while the trial of Chilean dictator Pinochet in London opened a whole new world of how to put dictators in the dock.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Stephanie and Janet also ask Reed how he sees the future. A key point for him is that lessons are always passed on and will inform the next cases, which is what he sees happening in his work in Gambia now. And that is the lesson also for hybrid tribunals, where a statute can be drawn up to fit its purpose, as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/107774-chad-president-promises-compensate-habre-victims.html\">the case of Hiss\u00e8ne Habr\u00e9<\/a> shows.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"articleLink articleLink--editorRecommanded articleLink--textInImage articleLink--textTop\" style=\"\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\r\n\t\t\t<div class=\"articleLinkSurTitle\">Recommended reading<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<a class=\"articleLinkImageLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/102866-icc-20-elusive-success-double-standards-ukraine-moment.html\"><div class=\"articleLinkImageContainer \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"540\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/International-Criminal-Court-Cour-penale-internationale_windows_@ICC-CPI-540x360.jpg\" class=\"articleLinkImage backgroundImageTag w-100 wp-post-image\" alt=\"Offices of the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague. 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A shrewd and creative lawyer, unrelenting activist, gifted communicator and story-teller, Brody has a book out: To Catch a Dictator, The Pursuit and Trial of Hiss\u00e8ne Habr\u00e9. 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