{"id":121354,"date":"2023-09-08T15:58:00","date_gmt":"2023-09-08T13:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/?p=121354"},"modified":"2023-09-08T15:58:58","modified_gmt":"2023-09-08T13:58:58","slug":"venezuela-icc-whats-up-with-the-fools-game","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/121354-venezuela-icc-whats-up-with-the-fools-game.html","title":{"rendered":"Venezuela\/ICC: what\u2019s up with the fool\u2019s game?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>For several years, the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the government of Venezuela have sort of played <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/84481-venezuela-icc-who-is-fooling-who.html\">a cat and mouse game<\/a>. And meanwhile, almost ten years after Nicolas Maduro became president, serious human rights violations are continuing. There is systematic use of arbitrary detention, and torture, among other violations. In fact crimes against Indigenous communities are increasing, says Joanna Frivet, a member of an expert panel set up by the Organization of American states. So where are we in the relationship between the ICC and Venezuela ? In this podcast by our partners at Asymmetrical Haircuts, Frivet and Marta Valinas, a member of the UN fact-finding commission on Venezuela, explain how they are documenting crimes against humanity in the country and analyze how the ICC is moving forward <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/38998-latin-american-states-to-refer-venezuela-to-the-icc.html\">after years of \u201cexamination\u201d<\/a>, followed by nearly two years of on-and-off investigation, and two memoranda of understanding signed by the ICC Prosecutor Karim Khan, including one this summer that has been kept confidential. \u201cHow can you reasonably expect the other party [the victims] to have faith in the process?\u201d worries Frivet. \u201cWe\u2019re in a situation where the [ICC] appeals chamber say that Venezuela is not meeting the standard and we have deals happening that we don\u2019t know about\u201d.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><em><em>To listen to the podcast, click on the \"play\" button below:<\/em> <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/id\/118049072?cache=1694178283#darkOrLight-Light&shownotes-ffffff&download-ffffff&subscribe-ffffff&share-382e2c&shownotesBackground-ffc72c&downloadBackground-382e2c&subscribeBackground-9b9593&shareBackground-ffffff\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"150px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p>In June <a href=\"https:\/\/www.icc-cpi.int\/news\/situation-venezuela-icc-pre-trial-chamber-i-authorizes-resumption-investigation\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">International Criminal Court judges ruled<\/a> that the Prosecutor could resume investigations into Venezuela, so we took the opportunity to finally look into the situation. This is the first of two podcasts about alleged crimes committed there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The alleged crimes concern the treatment of protesters in 2014, during the economic crisis that followed the death of former socialist president Hugo Chavez. The protest were violently repressed by the government and over 130 people were killed and over 15,000 wounded. Another big wave of protests and repression followed in 2017 and allegations of arbitrary detention and torture of opposition supporters and other crimes against humanity soared.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>ICC aside, two big international investigations over the crimes committed in Venezuela have been ongoing. Ad we caught up with some of the women behind the reports. We have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ohchr.org\/en\/hr-bodies\/hrc\/ffmv\/members\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Marta Vali\u00f1as<\/a>, Chairperson of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ohchr.org\/en\/hr-bodies\/hrc\/ffmv\/index\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">UN-backed Independent International Fact-Finding Mission on the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela<\/a>. Marta talks about their findings and how they show an ongoing effort to \u201cquash\u201d the opposition by serious human rights violations.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And also with us is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/joannafrivet\/?originalSubdomain=nl\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Joanna Frivet<\/a>, barrister at Guernica37 and member of the Panel of Experts of the Organisation of American States on Venezuela. The reports issued by the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.oas.org\/en\/media_center\/press_release.asp?sCodigo=E-075\/21\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Panel<\/a> motivated 6 South American states to request the ICC to open their investigations. Joanna explains how the judiciary system is intertwined with the state apparatus and how it is therefore also responsible for crimes against humanity.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We also ask Joanna and Marta how independent their work is and what they have seen on the ground in Venezuela \u2013 what are victims\u2019 and civil society\u2019s expectations. And of course, we dig deeper into how the ICC\u2019s prosecutor has interacted with the government in Caracas.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"articleLink articleLink--editorRecommanded articleLink--textInImage articleLink--textTop\" style=\"\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\r\n\t\t\t<div class=\"articleLinkSurTitle\">Recommended reading<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<a class=\"articleLinkImageLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/84481-venezuela-icc-who-is-fooling-who.html\"><div class=\"articleLinkImageContainer \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"540\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Venezuela_riot-police-demonstrator-Maduro_@Juan-Barreto-AFP-540x360.jpg\" class=\"articleLinkImage backgroundImageTag w-100 wp-post-image\" alt=\"Two riot police officers arrest a protester and take him away on a motorbike\" srcset=\"\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/div><\/a>\r\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/84481-venezuela-icc-who-is-fooling-who.html\" class=\"articleLinkTitle articleLinkTitle--default\">\r\n\t\t\tVenezuela and the ICC: who\u2019s fooling who?\r\n\t\t<\/a>\r\n\t\t\r\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"content-encadre\">\n<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"pull-left\" title=\"Asymmetrical Haircuts podcast\" src=\"media\/Asymmetrical-Haircuts-podcast_logo.png\" alt=\"Asymmetrical Haircuts podcast\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\">ASYMMETRICAL HAIRCUTS<br><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This podcast has been published as part of a partnership between JusticeInfo.net and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.asymmetricalhaircuts.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Asymmetrical Haircuts<\/a>, a podcast on international justice produced from The Hague by journalists Janet Anderson and Stephanie van den Berg, who retain full control and independence over the contents of the podcast.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For several years, the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the government of Venezuela have sort of played a cat and mouse game. And meanwhile, almost ten years after Nicolas Maduro became president, serious human rights violations are continuing. There is systematic use of arbitrary detention, and torture, among other violations. In fact crimes against Indigenous [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":64,"featured_media":121365,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[562,569],"tags":[3935,2957],"ji_location":[2553],"class_list":["post-121354","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-icc","category-podcast","tag-human-rights","tag-indigenous-peoples","ji_location-venezuela"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.3.1 (Yoast SEO v25.3.1) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Venezuela\/ICC: what\u2019s up with the fool\u2019s game? - JusticeInfo.net<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/121354-venezuela-icc-whats-up-with-the-fools-game.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Venezuela\/ICC: what\u2019s up with the fool\u2019s game?\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"For several years, the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the government of Venezuela have sort of played a cat and mouse game. 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