{"id":144243,"date":"2025-04-14T10:31:56","date_gmt":"2025-04-14T08:31:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/?p=144243"},"modified":"2025-04-14T10:35:50","modified_gmt":"2025-04-14T08:35:50","slug":"we-must-not-drain-a-historic-trial-of-all-its-sap","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/144243-we-must-not-drain-a-historic-trial-of-all-its-sap.html","title":{"rendered":"\u2018We must not drain a historic trial of all its sap\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>At the end of March, Mamadi Doumbouya's government announced both its decision to pay compensation to the victims of the 28 September 2009 massacre and pardon Moussa Dadis Camara, the former Guinean head of state who was sentenced last year to 20 years in prison for this crime against humanity. For political analyst Kabinet Fofana, this decision is linked to Camara's political weight and popularity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading content-question-itw\" id=\"h-justice-info-what-political-factors-explain-the-coincidence-of-these-two-announcements-the-state-s-decision-to-assume-responsibility-for-compensating-the-victims-of-the-conakry-stadium-massacre-in-2009-and-the-pardon-of-captain-moussa-dadis-camara\">JUSTICE INFO: What political factors explain the coincidence of these two announcements, the State's d\u00e9cision to assume responsibility for compensating the victims of the Conakry stadium massacre in 2009, and the pardon of Captain Moussa Dadis Camara?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>KABINET FOFANA: Indeed, the pardon came on the heels of the announcement that a process would be set up to compensate the victims of 28 September, which was one of the recommendations of the court\u2019s ruling. I think that first of all, there was a desire to respond to a strong demand made by civil parties, but also by the judges. I think that the President of the transition [General Mamadi Doumbouya, in power in Guinea since a coup d'\u00e9tat in 2021] wanted to kill two birds with one stone, even if this naturally raised questions about the validity of the pardon, since, as far as the lawyers and other human rights organisations are concerned, an appeal is currently being lodged against the first instance <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/134898-guinea-dadis-camara-convicted-trial-closes-leaving-questions.html\">judgment<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Are there political overtones behind this? Yes, of course. Both the victims and those who support Captain Dadis are important public opinion. Whatever is said, Captain Dadis remains the most important political figure in Forested Guinea [the south-eastern region of Guinea]. It is therefore quite possible that electoral, even political, overtones could explain these two decisions, particularly the one pardoning Captain Moussa Dadis Camara<strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading content-question-itw\" id=\"h-what-electoral-deadlines-lie-ahead-for-mamadi-doumbouya-and-what-alliance-is-he-trying-to-build-to-support-his-expected-candidacy-what-does-the-dadis-camara-card-represent-in-the-current-context-that-would-justify-his-pardon-and-release\">What electoral deadlines lie ahead for Mamadi Doumbouya and what alliance is he trying to build to support his expected candidacy? What does the Dadis Camara card represent in the current context that would justify his pardon and release?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Today, it is increasingly clear that General Mamadi Doumbouya will run [in the presidential election promised for 2025]. A large coalition of political parties has formed and is calling for him to be a candidate. Captain Dadis is an extremely important figure. This remains to be seen, but his pardon would be a motivating factor in voting among the Forested Guinea's electorate or among those who are sympathetic to him. It should be pointed out that Forested Guinea is not a fixed electorate, but a very fragmented one, due to sometimes very ethnic considerations, since this part of Guinea is made up of many ethnic groups. And we know that leaders are often formed on the basis of such considerations. So we'll see whether the pardon of Captain Dadis will crystallize the electorate, if President Mamadi Doumbouya runs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading content-question-itw\" id=\"h-you-mentioned-ethnic-groups-what-is-the-weight-of-the-foresters-in-the-army-and-on-the-current-political-scene\">You mentioned ethnic groups. What is the weight of the Foresters in the army and on the current political scene?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>On the political scene, Forested Guinea is a very important electorate. In fact, it is the electorate that, in addition to Maritime Guinea, has become a kind of kingmaker in recent years. It's a kind of \u2018swing state\u2019, as we would say in the United States. As far as the army is concerned, the foresters make up a large part of the \u2018Grande Muette\u2019 [the army], and the proportion of young people from this region in the army increased when Captain Dadis came to power in 2008.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<div class=\"ArticleNewsletterCTA\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"ArticleNewsletterCTATitle\">FIND THIS ARTICLE INTERESTING?<\/div>\r\n\t\t<div class=\"ArticleNewsletterCTAText\">\r\n\t\t\t<a href=\"\/en\/newsletter\">Sign up now for our (free) newsletter<\/a> to make sure you don't miss out on other publications of this type. \t\t<\/div>\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n\t\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading content-question-itw\" id=\"h-is-it-conceivable-that-the-seven-other-people-convicted-in-the-28-september-trial-moussa-tiegboro-camara-aboubacar-diakite-known-as-toumba-marcel-guilavogui-claude-pivi-blaise-goumou-mamadou-aliou-keita-paul-mansa-guilavogui-could-also-benefit-from-a-presidential-pardon\">Is it conceivable that the seven other people convicted in the 28 September trial [Moussa Tiegboro Camara, Aboubacar Diakit\u00e9 known as Toumba, Marcel Guilavogui, Claude Pivi, Blaise Goumou, Mamadou Aliou Ke\u00efta, Paul Mansa Guilavogui] could also benefit from a presidential pardon?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes and no. Public opinion is saying that there has been preferential treatment. So I think there is a strong possibility that Toumba [Aboubacar Diakit\u00e9, Dadis Camara's former aide-de-camp and head of the presidential guard at the time of the massacre] and others will be pardoned. But will this happen automatically? By releasing them all today, we must avoid trampling the whole point of trying these massacres.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We mustn't forget that the primary objective is to judge an event that has been described as a crime against humanity and that has aroused a great deal of interest. For the first time, a national court was able to try a case of such magnitude. I think we have to be careful not to trivialize these massacres, because they represent a dark chapter in our country's history.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading content-question-itw\" id=\"h-what-about-the-case-of-claude-pivi-whose-escape-in-november-2023-highlighted-the-influential-contacts-he-retained-within-the-army-before-he-was-arrested-and-then-extradited-from-liberia-last-september\">What about the case of Claude Pivi, whose escape in November 2023 highlighted the influential contacts he retained within the army, before he was arrested and then extradited from Liberia last September?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The case of Colonel Pivi [former Minister of Presidential Security at the time of the massacre] is a very specific one. But in terms of importance, the captain [Dadis Camara] carries more weight. That's why I'm not very sure that pardons are going to be granted at the drop of a hat. I think it's a risk that the authorities, or rather the president of the transition who is the one pardoning people, would not take.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading content-question-itw\" id=\"h-the-guinean-organisation-of-defence-of-human-rights-ogdh-said-it-was-outraged-by-the-pardon-especially-as-the-appeal-procedure-had-not-even-been-completed-it-is-an-attack-on-the-honour-and-dignity-of-the-victims-they-said-as-well-as-a-violation-of-the-most-basic-principles-of-proper-administration-of-justice-how-can-president-doumbouya-manage-the-contradiction-between-supporting-and-funding-a-historic-trial-and-what-the-opposition-national-front-for-the-defence-of-the-constitution-has-described-as-cynical-political-manipulation\">The Guinean organisation of defence of human rights (OGDH) said it was outraged by the pardon, especially as the appeal procedure had not even been completed. It is \u201can attack on the honour and dignity of the victims,\u201d they said, as well as a \u201cviolation of the most basic principles of proper administration of justice\u201d. How can President Doumbouya manage the contradiction between supporting and funding a historic trial and what the opposition National Front for the Defence of the Constitution has described as \u201ccynical political manipulation\u201d?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>There is an outcry that puts into perspective the difficulty of understanding the President's pardon of Captain Dadis. Like the OGDH, you have the United Nations, the International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH), etc.: all these organisations remain indignant today. For them, there is a bitter taste that this pardon has come on the heels of a historic trial hailed by international public opinion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is where there is still a lot to be done in terms of education. That's why I don't think other pardons should be granted in the same breath, because that would exacerbate the outcry. One wouldn't want to take the risk of further aggravating these claims, when one knows that the judgement in the 28 September massacre trial was a positive step for the Conakry regime, and one that was hailed internationally. I think there is a need for&nbsp; education so that one does not once again drain of all its sap a historic trial that has been hailed by the entire international community.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading content-question-itw\" id=\"h-is-this-pardon-the-programmed-end-of-the-criminal-justice-process-in-favour-of-national-reconciliation-and-payment-to-the-victims\">Is this pardon the programmed end of the criminal justice process in favour of national reconciliation and payment to the victims?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>We are now faced with a situation where we told ourselves \u2018that's it, we've judged the case\u2019, and then a pardon intervened in the meantime, which has, let's say, put a bit of a damper on the judicial machinery. But will that be the end of it? Are we going to end up with a form of transitional justice or national reconciliation, after having served, or rather exhausted, all the legal avenues available in this area? This is something that we will have to observe, that we will have to follow, to see what kind of turn this extremely important case for Guinea will take.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"articleLink articleLink--editorRecommanded articleLink--textInImage articleLink--textTop\" style=\"\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\r\n\t\t\t<div class=\"articleLinkSurTitle\">Recommended reading<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<a class=\"articleLinkImageLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/143481-guinea-the-state-commits-to-compensating-victims.html\"><div class=\"articleLinkImageContainer \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"540\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Guinee_inauguration-tribunal-Conakry_@Cellou-Binani-AFP-540x360.jpg\" class=\"articleLinkImage backgroundImageTag w-100 wp-post-image\" alt=\"28 September trial in Guinea: following the government&#039;s announcement, victims are waiting for \u2018reparations\u2019 (financial compensation). Photo: Exterior view of the new courthouse in Conakry at its inauguration on 28 September 2022.\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Guinee_inauguration-tribunal-Conakry_@Cellou-Binani-AFP-540x360.jpg 540w, https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Guinee_inauguration-tribunal-Conakry_@Cellou-Binani-AFP-1000x667.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Guinee_inauguration-tribunal-Conakry_@Cellou-Binani-AFP-1110x740.jpg 1110w, https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Guinee_inauguration-tribunal-Conakry_@Cellou-Binani-AFP.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/div><\/a>\r\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/143481-guinea-the-state-commits-to-compensating-victims.html\" class=\"articleLinkTitle articleLinkTitle--default\">\r\n\t\t\tGuinea: the State commits to compensating victims\r\n\t\t<\/a>\r\n\t\t\r\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"content-encadre\">\r\n\t<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-144232\" src=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Kabinet-Fofana.jpg\" alt=\"Kabinet Fofana\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Kabinet-Fofana.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Kabinet-Fofana-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/>KABINET FOFANA<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Kabinet Fofana is a political scientist. Director of the Guinean Association of Political Science, a Guinean think tank, he has directed the production of numerous studies on the perceptions and opinions of Guineans regarding political and social life and regularly analyzes Guinea\u2019s political news in the international media (France 24, Jeune Afrique, Africa 24, Radio France Internationale) as well as for the Groupe Fr\u00e9quence M\u00e9dias. He is co-author of the chapter \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/shs.cairn.info\/revue-politique-africaine-2023-1-page-33?tab=resume\">Loyalties and military betrayals. A spatialized reading of power relations within the Guinean <\/a>army\u201d, published in Politique africaine in 2023.<\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What political factors explain the Guinean State's decision to compensate the victims of the 2009 Conakry stadium massacre and to pardon Captain Moussa Dadis Camara? Political scientist Kabinet Fofana explains.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":160,"featured_media":144238,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4069,566],"tags":[3811,3704,2769],"ji_location":[2257],"class_list":["post-144243","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interviews","category-national-tribunals","tag-conakry-massacre-trial","tag-moussa-dadis-camara-en","tag-politics","ji_location-guinea"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.3.1 (Yoast SEO v25.3.1) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>\u2018We must not drain a historic trial of all its sap\u2019<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"What political factors explain the Guinean State&#039;s decision to compensate the victims of the 2009 Conakry stadium massacre and to pardon Captain Moussa Dadis Camara? 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