{"id":27439,"date":"2016-05-21T13:54:19","date_gmt":"2016-05-21T11:54:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/27439-french-trial-hears-about-investigating-genocide-in-rwanda.html"},"modified":"2016-05-21T13:54:19","modified_gmt":"2016-05-21T11:54:19","slug":"french-trial-hears-about-investigating-genocide-in-rwanda","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/27439-french-trial-hears-about-investigating-genocide-in-rwanda.html","title":{"rendered":"French Trial Hears About Investigating Genocide in Rwanda"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cIn the four years I have been investigating, there have been seven or eight crises [with Rwanda]. We thought our investigation there was over, but it\u2019s still ongoing.\u201d These were the words of a French gendarme, neat in his uniform with cap placed beside him on a chair, as he testified in the Paris trial of two former Rwandan mayors charged with genocide. Under lengthy questioning on Thursday May 19, he openly gave many details about the investigation that led to this trial of Tito Barahira and Octavien Ngenzi.<\/p>\n<p>Lieutenant Olivier Griffoul was one of the first investigators in the gendarmerie\u2019s \u201ccrimes against humanity, genocide and war crimes\u201d unit when the team was still tiny. In 2010, the \u201cRwandan cases\u201d were just being revived in Paris, after a warming in relations with Kigali in late 2009. Two, three four and now twelve investigators have been on various missions to probe 15 priority cases out of some 30 judicial complaints filed in France against Rwandan suspects. Lieutenant Griffoul alone has been to Rwanda \u201cabout 20 times\u201d. His investigations started with Octavien Ngenzi, who was mayor of Kabarondo commune during the genocide. Ngenzi was arrested in Mayotte in June 2010. The investigation into Tito Barahira, who was mayor before Ngenzi and was arrested three years later in Toulouse, started later and was joined to Ngenzi\u2019s case in July 2013. The two cases were joined, the investigator told the court, when witnesses established a link between a meeting Barahira held with militia on the football pitch of his native district Cyinzovu and attacks carried out in the centre de Kabarondo, which was Ngenzi\u2019s fief.<\/p>\n<h3>5,000 to 6,000 dead in the commune<\/h3>\n<p>Responding to a question from the jury about the influence of ex-mayor Barahira, the gendarme was affirmative. \u201cHe was one of a group of notables, unlike Ngenzi who was a newcomer,\u201d\u00a0he said. \u201cIt was Barahira who gathered the youth of the MRND [presidential party] that would make up the militia.\u201d Using videos, the investigator pointed out to the court the main massacre sites that will be cited in the trial \u2013 the church, the health centre, the IGA literacy centre \u2013 and spoke also of targeted raids on mixed families. \u201cThere are said to have been some 5,000 to 6,000 people killed in the commune,\u201d he said in answer to a judge\u2019s question. \u201cIn this case, we have tried to single out the facts that can be attributed directly to Ngenzi and Barahira. But across the commune there was a whole series of murders committed because at best they allowed them to happen and at worst because the authorities sent messages authorizing the killing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The arrival of Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) rebels, which he said happened between April 19 and 20, 1994, stopped these killings and led the two accused to flee. Before that, Griffoul told the court, \u201cstaying would not have been logical if you didn\u2019t support what was going on\u201d. He said it also seemed clear that Ngenzi was linked to the regional strongman Colonel Pierre-C\u00e9lestin Rwagafilita, who is said to have helped Ngenzi fund his studies in agricultural engineering. The gendarme said Rwagafilita was a leader of the \u201cKibungo club\u201d. \u201cHe pulled strings in the struggle between the central authorities [Hutu, but from the north of the country] and this eastern region,\u201d the investigator told the court. \u201cUnder the cover of economic development, the Kibungo club deployed a strategy of cronyism and a racist ideology.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>Ngenzi in charge<\/h3>\n<p>The two accused earlier painted a picture of Kabarondo as being preserved \u2013 up until the genocide \u2013\u00a0from inter-ethnic hatred. \u201cWhat do you say to that?\u201d prosecutor Philippe Courroye asked.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat I sense is that in Kabarando, there were some personal interests that were more important than ideologies,\u201d the gendarme replied. \u201cThe MRND\u2019s power there was not unshakeable.\u201d Kabarondo is certainly far from Kigali, but the gradual rise of anti-Tutsi paranoia was no less real, he said, especially since it is near the Akagera national park from which RPF rebels could emerge at any moment.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd Mr. Ngenzi says he was unable to control the militia, is that fiction?\u201d asked Courroye. \u201cYes, absolutely,\u201d the gendarme replied. \u201cSo far as I can see, Ngenzi remained in charge until the end. He had the means, the support and the power.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>\u201cProfessional witnesses\u201d<\/h3>\n<p>For the Defence, this accusation was strong. \u201cYou seem to assert a lot of things with certainty that I have not seen in the file,\u201d lawyer Fran\u00e7oise Math\u00e9 struck back. \u201cWhere did you get this information about the Kibungo club and Rwagafilita?\u201d The gendarme said he had \u201crecords from the investigation\u201d. He explained that the investigators had never focused on Rwagafilita \u2013 who has never been tried and is thought to be dead \u2013 and that they finally decided to accept as fact certain \u201cfacts established by the Rwandan authorities\u201d. Exchange between the lawyer and the gendarme then became more heated. \u201cWhat permits you to say that Mr. Ngenzi worked for Rwagafilta?\u201d asked Math\u00e9. \u201cIt\u2019s a bit excessive, but that\u2019s the result of your questions which are also a bit excessive,\u201d said the Lieutenant.<\/p>\n<p>Then the issue of \u201cprofessional witnesses\u201d was raised. The investigator did not deny their existence. \u201cThey are there,\u201d he said. \u201cBut I am also a professional investigator. We know who they are, we have identified them and neutralized them. We are not amateurs!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The investigator had earlier described the difficulties of gathering testimonial evidence when their travel was overseen by the GFTU (Genocide Fugitive Tracking Unit), the Rwandan prosecution\u2019s unit charged with tracking genocide suspects abroad. \u201cBut the GFTU was not present at any hearings,\u201d he stressed. He told the court about M\u00e9thode, the Rwandan judicial police officer responsible for accompanying them. \u201cHe\u2019s a former RPF officer who was quite blinkered at the start but I saw him evolve as our investigation went on.\u201d Initially, they had to question witnesses on a list supplied by the authorities. \u201cBut then,\u201d he continued, \u201cvery quickly we got back our freedom to work as we wanted. We also made sure interpreters are loyal.\u201d Of course people may be pressured afterwards, he admitted, either by the Rwandan government or the families of the accused.<\/p>\n<h3>\u201cSeven or eight crises\u201d<\/h3>\n<p>Barahira\u2019s lawyer Philippe Meilhac then raised again the difficulties encountered especially with former Rwandan Attorney General Martin Ngoga. In early 2012, after two trouble-free years, diplomatic relations between Paris and Kigali froze over again. Ngoga told the press that French investigators had been \u201cchased out\u201d of Rwanda. \u201cThat was not true, we were repatriated prematurely,\u201d Lieutenant Griffoul told the court. He said he thought Ngoga\u2019s statement was part of a political strategy and did not reflect working relations on the ground. \u201cIn the four years I have been investigating, there have been seven or eight crises [with Rwanda]. We thought our investigation there was over, but it\u2019s still ongoing.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"content-encadre\">\n<p><strong>FRANCE'S WAR CRIMES INVESTIGATIONS<br \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>With each new crisis between Rwanda and France, the investigators find themselves caught in its tentacles. \u00a0The last one broke with the announcement in October 2015 that France was dropping its case against Wenceslas Munyeshaka, 20 years after the first judicial complaint was filed against this Catholic priest exiled in France. The head of the central anti-war crimes office confirmed to JusticeInfo that \u201cthis delayed a visit. We should have gone (to Rwanda) in November, but we went in February\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut it has not affected our work on the ground,\u201d Colonel Jean-Fran\u00e7ois Caparos continues. He says a new mission to Rwanda is planned \u201cin the next two weeks\u201d. Out of some 50 cases the Office\u2019s gendarmes are handling, 50% concern Rwanda. About 15 \u201care progressing well\u201d, with some four investigative missions per year. Each time, six to eight investigators go to Rwanda, sometimes accompanied by an investigating magistrate, and conduct \u201cbetween 90 and 120 witness hearings\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Apart from Rwanda, the Office\u2019s 14 members are working on a number of other cases, of which two \u2013 the Central African Republic and Syria \u2013 are considered \u201cpriority\u201d.\u00a0 With regard to Syria, the \u201cCaesar\u201d case was brought to media attention last September by former Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius. Since then, investigators in the case have been looking for a way to apply French jurisdiction by identifying \u201ceither a French victim or a perpetrator on French territory\u201d. Several judicial sources indicate that other cases could be opened before the end of the year, with collaboration between the terrorism and crimes against humanity units. As well as pursuing people suspected of links to terrorist crimes, the idea is also to go after certain French citizens or refugees returned from Syria or Iraq and considered a national threat, for crimes against humanity or war crimes.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cIn the four years I have been investigating, there have been seven or eight crises [with Rwanda]. We thought our investigation there was over, but it\u2019s still ongoing.\u201d These were the words of a French gendarme, neat in his uniform with cap placed beside him on a chair, as he testified in the Paris trial [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":72,"featured_media":65612,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[566],"tags":[],"ji_location":[2431],"class_list":["post-27439","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-national-tribunals","ji_location-rwanda"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.3.1 (Yoast SEO v25.3.1) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>French Trial Hears About Investigating Genocide in Rwanda - JusticeInfo.net<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/27439-french-trial-hears-about-investigating-genocide-in-rwanda.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"French Trial Hears About Investigating Genocide in Rwanda\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"\u201cIn the four years I have been investigating, there have been seven or eight crises [with Rwanda]. 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