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Isatou Njie Saidy was Gambia\u2019s vice-president during twenty years of the 22-year rule of Yahya Jammeh. Before the Truth, Reconciliation and Reparations Commission she admitted endorsing the order sending the army to crush a student protest in 2000. But she had a hard time remembering anything else.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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During two decades, from 1997 to 2017, she was the vice-president of The Gambia. The country\u2019s leader was Yahya Jammeh, who had come to power in 1994 through a military coup. He was known for hiring and firing more ministers than any president in the region. Yet, Isatou Njie Saidy seemed to have won his full trust. While being his vice-president, she kept holding the portfolio of Health, Social and Women\u2019s Affairs. That made her the country\u2019s longest serving minister and the most powerful woman under Jammeh.\u00a0<\/p>\n

On October 3 Isatou Njie Saidy appeared as a witness before the Truth, Reconciliation and Reparations Commission (TRRC). She was the last person to testify on the events of April 10 and 11, 2000, when fourteen students were gunned down by security forces for protesting the alleged rape of a student, Binta Manneh, and the alleged murder of another, Ebrima Barry<\/a>. Both victims had reportedly been assaulted by security officers. Nothing had been done about it.\u00a0The students took to the streets, demanding justice, and they were met with brute force.<\/p>\n

\u201cTake care of the bastards in whatever way\u201d<\/h3>\n

At the time of the events Jammeh was on travel in Cuba. Saidy was the acting president. According to the evidence before the TRRC, the authorities made efforts to brief the vice-president about the protest, and she briefed the president while he was in Cuba. Several people testified to this. Lalo Jaiteh, Jammeh\u2019s aide-de-camp, said that while in Cuba he had received a call from the protocol officer of the vice-president informing him that Saidy wanted to talk to Jammeh.\u00a0The student demonstration had already begun. \u201cI took the phone to the president and while I was waiting at the door, I heard him say: \u2018take care of these bastards in whatever way\u2019,\u201d stated Jaiteh, who testified via Skype from Switzerland where he currently lives.<\/p>\n

Colonel Babucarr Jatta, the army chief at the time, testified that it was the former vice-president who ordered the deployment of the troops. Jatta even went on to say that by deploying the troops she knew that force would be used which could result in people being killed.<\/p>\n

It was now time for Saidy to answer. She presumably had a lot of stories to tell. And she did eventually admit responsibility. But on a lot of questions, she claimed not to have an answer.\u00a0<\/p>\n

She denied that what Jaiteh had heard \u2013 \u201ctake care of these bastards in whatever way\u201d \u2013 had been passed on to her. \u201cI know the ex-president often uses such expressions when he is angry but I don\u2019t remember him saying that to me,\u201d Saidy said. \u201cMaybe he said it to the soldiers because I spoke to him and passed the phone to Colonel Babucarr Jatta.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cI did not anything about it\u201d<\/h3>\n

Saidy said that even when she was the acting president she was not in charge.\u00a0\u201cJammeh is a strong man and he does not leave security to anyone. He takes care of that himself,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n

She stressed that the decision to deploy soldiers was reached by the National Security Council at a meeting she chaired. She also claimed she didn\u2019t hear about the death of the student protesters before a couple of days. And so it was up to the TRRC lead counsel Essa Faal to expose the contradictions in the former vice-president\u2019s testimony. Known for his tough questioning of high-value witnesses, this time Faal sometimes showed unusual tact.<\/p>\n

\u201cIsn\u2019t it odd that the whole country knew about the death of the students but the vice-president only knew two or three days later? It is a serious disaster that you did not know what happened in the country.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cIt is serious but it\u2026 happened,\u201d said Saidy.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cState House was just next to the major hospital where people shot were taken. Isn\u2019t this a case of selective memory?\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cNo, I don\u2019t know.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cYou sent the security to intervene.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cNo, we did not. They were to go stabilize the country.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cBut how were they to stabilize if they were not to intervene?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cWell, they know best how to do that. Those were operational issues.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cThat is hard to believe, madam vice-president. There is a national emergency and all you told the security forces was to go and stabilize the situation without having any clue what they were to do?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cI don\u2019t remember saying: deploy forces.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cBut that is the problem. On all the critical issues, you don\u2019t remember.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cI know the Security Council agreed to deploy the army\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cDidn\u2019t you expect the army to use the guns to quell the situation? Did you expect the army to go there and say \u2018calm down\u2019 and everything goes away?\u201d\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cNo, but these are operational issues. I did not know anything about it.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cBabucarr Jatta said you ordered him to use his forces to go and quell the demonstration.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cThey [the security forces] advised me. I said ok. Go ahead.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cAnd your decision was what was implemented by them?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cYes.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cAnd they went and kill Gambians.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cWell, I did not order them to kill the Gambians\u2026\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cBut you ordered for the deployment of the army.\u00a0They used more guns and more people died. Do you accept responsibility for that?\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cI know it was wrong to indemnify the people who killed\u201d<\/h3>\n

At this point, the confrontation became tense. The soft-spoken vice-president was conceding slowly. She was a bit emotional too and was raising her voice. For a moment the room got filled with silence.<\/p>\n

Faal had prepared a list of ten kinds of violations that Jammeh is accused of. There were disappearances, targeted assassinations, witch-hunting, jailing political opponents and journalists, among others. The Commission\u2019s chair, Lamin Sise, would later joke about the list as the Ten Commandments. Faal counted Jammeh\u2019s atrocities as Saidy looked on. \u201cYou served a dictator who was killing his people,\u201d said Faal. Saidy nodded and looked away. She claimed she did not know about the Junglers, a notorious paramilitary unit.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cDid you last in Jammeh\u2019s government for 22 years by defying orders?\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cYes, I defied him sometimes\u2026\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cBut in all Jammeh\u2019s speeches, you are always there nodding. He vowed to put people six-feet deep and you did nothing,\u201d insisted Faal.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Saidy, appearing submissive, this time only said yes.<\/p>\n

After the bloody protest, the government set up an inquiry. But while some low-level officials were interviewed, vice-president Saidy or members of the National Security Council did not appear before that commission. The government did not hold anyone accountable for the killings. It even passed a law to indemnify the soldiers and paramilitary forces. Again, Saidy claimed she did not play any role in enacting this law.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cI heard the President [Jammeh] saying that in the interest of peace people needed to be forgive on both sides,\u201d said the former vice-president.<\/p>\n

Faal\u2019s tone shifted a bit.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cBut isn\u2019t that a lie? There was nothing to forgive from the students. They did nothing. You would not challenge the decision of the commission because it indemnified you,\u201d argued Faal.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Saidy shook her head in admission. \u201cI know it was wrong to indemnify the people who killed. It was wrong for anybody who killed to be granted immunity,\u201d she said.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Putting the record straight<\/h3>\n

In the immediate aftermath of the student protest, Saidy had read a statement claiming there were people among the students holding guns. Even the official inquiry rejected that claim. But she never admitted it or changed her original statement.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cThe statement that you wrote was false,\u201d Faal put to Saidy.<\/p>\n

\u201cI did not know it was false.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cThe evidence we have is that in your office it was discussed that it was false. Babucarr Jatta told us here.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cNo, I would not have read it if it were false.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cYou read what Jammeh told you and you knew that statement was false.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cI did not know it was false. They only brought me the statement and I read it.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cWe were told that Jammeh insisted that you read the statement as it was. When you read that statement, you knew it was false.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cNo, I did not. I only knew it was not true after the coroner\u2019s inquest.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cSo you concluded that the statement you fed the Gambian people was false. What did you do about that?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cWhat could I have done about that?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cYou did something you knew was false and you did not correct that?\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cOk. I am not here to argue.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cBut you have grossly misled the Gambian people.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cBut if I have to do that [correct the original statement which said students were carrying guns], I would have sought clearance from Jammeh.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

For many Gambians, the testimony of Isatou Njie Saidy before the TRRC was a big achievement. She did take responsibility and apologized to the nation and the victims. She requested for state and private individuals to help those of them who are still living with the wounds of the April 2000 incidents. But while some people were impressed, Abdou Karim Jammeh was not. A victim of the shooting, where he was hit on his left leg, Karim Jammeh watched the testimony from home.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u201cShe was not honest and fair to us. She should have honestly and boldly come and accept responsibility,\u201d he said in an interview with JusticeInfo.\u00a0\u201cShe says she cannot remember almost everything but she could remember all the universities she attended and courses she did and jobs she took. So we are very disappointed.\u201d One thing remained though: \u201cIt was a rumor that Yahya Jammeh ordered the shootings through Isatou Njie Saidy. Now it is clear to us. It is up to the Commission to do their conclusion,\u201d Karim Jammeh said.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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