{"id":43691,"date":"2020-01-30T09:57:19","date_gmt":"2020-01-30T08:57:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/43691-uncomfortable-justice-with-lisa-clifford-and-her-militia-man.html"},"modified":"2020-01-30T09:57:19","modified_gmt":"2020-01-30T08:57:19","slug":"uncomfortable-justice-with-lisa-clifford-and-her-militia-man","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/43691-uncomfortable-justice-with-lisa-clifford-and-her-militia-man.html","title":{"rendered":"Uncomfortable Justice with Lisa Clifford and her \"Militia Man\""},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Please take a seat and switch off your mobile phones. This week, our partners from Asymmetrical Haircuts invite you with this new podcast to watch a movie in one of the International Criminal Court (ICC) dark rooms. A story of\u00a0<a href=\"en\/tribunals\/national-tribunals\/41663-congo-icc-germain-katanga-s-double-sentence.html\">double punishment<\/a>\u00a0and of inglorious justice, for a man who admitted his guilt, who was sentenced in The Hague for war crimes and crimes against humanity, who should have\u00a0been released from prison in January 2016\u00a0but is still in jail in Kinshasa, DRC, his home country. Janet Anderson and Stephanie van den Berg discuss with filmmaker and journalist Lisa Clifford. Her movie is called Militia Man.\u00a0For this podcast, please close your eyes and open your mind to the disturbing questions it raises\u00a0on guilt, punishment and the ICC\u2019s conception of justice.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>To listen to the podcast, click on the \"play\" button below:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/id\/55098102\/#time-0&amp;darkOrLight-Light&amp;shownotes-ffffff&amp;shownotesBackground-ffc72c&amp;download-ffffff&amp;downloadBackground-382e2c&amp;subscribe-ffffff&amp;subscribeBackground-9b9593&amp;share-382e2c&amp;shareBackground-ffffff\" width=\"100%\" height=\"138px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>When the trial is over \u2013 the lawyers have argued, the judges have judged, the sentence has been served \u2013 then what? The guilty person says they want to return home, because they were sorry about what happened, and they want to try to make amends.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s the story of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.icc-cpi.int\/CaseInformationSheets\/KatangaEng.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Germain Katanga<\/a>, one of two local ethnic militia commanders from Ituri province in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), who were on trial from 2009 to 2014 at the International Criminal Court (ICC) for war crimes in the village of Bogoro in the eastern province of Ituri. One man was set free. Katanga though had the charges against him changed by the judges, after all the evidence was heard and after he\u2019d spoken directly to the court to say sorry \u2013 admitting his guilt. After sentencing he stayed in The Hague a scant few months, because his trial had taken so long, he had technically served his sentence. And then, he went back to the DRC.<\/p>\n<p>There, he was put in jail again. This time by the Kinshasa authorities. And, according to his lawyer David Hooper, The Hague has basically washed its hands of responsibility for the intended \u2018re-trial\u2019 that has still not yet taken place, some four years later.<\/p>\n<p>Filmmaker and journalist <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/journalistlisa\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Lisa Clifford<\/a> was fascinated by the story. Together with Katanga\u2019s lawyers, Hooper and Caroline Buisman, she visited him in the Scheveningen detention unit, and again in the main prison in Kinshasa. She also went with the lawyers as they tried to take Katanga\u2019s apology back to the people of Bogoro. But through the eyes of a young woman who lost her whole family when Katanga\u2019s militia attacked, Clifford also explores the limits of forgiveness and reconciliation.<\/p>\n<p>If you want to watch a film that should make you deeply question the meaning of punishments for mass atrocity crimes, and challenge your pre-conceptions about justice and the ICC, then watch <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/militiamanfilm\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Militia Man<\/a>. Otherwise, listen to Lisa explaining her methods to us in this edition of Asymmetrical Haircuts.<\/p>\n<div class=\"content-encadre\" style=\"margin-top: 30px;\">\n<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"pull-left\" title=\"Asymmetrical Haircuts podcast\" src=\"media\/Asymmetrical-Haircuts-podcast_logo.png\" alt=\"Asymmetrical Haircuts podcast\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" \/>ASYMMETRICAL HAIRCUTS<br \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This podcast has been published as part of a partnership between JusticeInfo.net and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.asymmetricalhaircuts.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Asymmetrical Haircuts<\/a>, a podcast on international justice produced from The Hague by journalists Janet Anderson and Stephanie van den Berg, who retain full control and independence over the contents of the podcast.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Please take a seat and switch off your mobile phones. 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