{"id":77438,"date":"2021-05-20T09:24:30","date_gmt":"2021-05-20T07:24:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/?p=77438"},"modified":"2021-05-20T10:09:48","modified_gmt":"2021-05-20T08:09:48","slug":"podcast-fatou-bensouda-history-will-judge-us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/77438-podcast-fatou-bensouda-history-will-judge-us.html","title":{"rendered":"Fatou Bensouda: \u201cHistory will judge us\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Fatou Bensouda has given one of her last interviews as outgoing International Criminal Court Prosecutor to our correspondents and partners Asymmetrical Haircuts in The Hague. In this exclusive podcast, she talks about lessons learned from her failures in the cases of Kenyan leaders, Jean-Pierre Bemba and Laurent Gbagbo. Bensouda tells us investigative strategies have evolved towards the collection of more material, open source and forensic evidence. With no remorse or regrets, the Gambian prosecutor points to her successes in the trials of middle-ranking personalities and advises her successor, British lawyer Karim Khan, to stay away from politics. \u201cSomething that I have experienced is pressure, attacks and politicization [but] what we do in this office is critically important,\u201d she says. \u201cHistory will judge us.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><em>To listen to the podcast, click on the \u201cplay\u201d button below:<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/id\/77377591\/#time-0&darkOrLight-Light&shownotes-ffffff&shownotesBackground-ffc72c&download-ffffff&downloadBackground-382e2c&subscribe-ffffff&subscribeBackground-9b9593&share-382e2c&shareBackground-ffffff\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"138px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p>The current prosecutor at the International Criminal Court Fatou Bensouda is leaving next month, after nine years in the job. And Stephanie finally got an interview with her! The interview was over an hour long and we\u2019ve picked some of the best clips for you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For background, here\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.icc-cpi.int\/Pages\/item.aspx?name=policy-paper-on-sexual-and-gender-based-crimes-05-06-2014\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the policy<\/a> on prosecuting Sexual and Gender-based Crimes she mentions and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.icc-cpi.int\/Pages\/item.aspx?name=161115-otp-policy-children\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the one<\/a> on Children. Also useful could be <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.icc-cpi.int\/Pages\/item.aspx?name=2020-otp-rep-PE\" target=\"_blank\">the latest report<\/a> on the situations the ICC has under preliminary examination. And the list of cases referred to: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.icc-cpi.int\/uganda\/ongwen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Dominic Ongwen<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.icc-cpi.int\/drc\/ntaganda\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Bosco Ntaganda<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.icc-cpi.int\/car\/bemba\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Jean-Pierre Bemba<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.icc-cpi.int\/cdi\/gbagbo-goude\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Laurent Gbagbo<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.icc-cpi.int\/kenya\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Kenya cases<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.icc-cpi.int\/darfur\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sudan cases<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"813\" src=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Podcast_Fatou-Bensouda_@Asymmetrical-Haircuts.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-77440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Podcast_Fatou-Bensouda_@Asymmetrical-Haircuts.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Podcast_Fatou-Bensouda_@Asymmetrical-Haircuts-730x495.jpg 730w, https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Podcast_Fatou-Bensouda_@Asymmetrical-Haircuts-1110x752.jpg 1110w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption>Fatou Bensouda, Anthony Deutsch and Stephanie van den Berg (<em>Photo by Piroschka van de Wouw)<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n<div class=\"articleLink articleLink--editorRecommanded articleLink--textInImage articleLink--textTop\" style=\"\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\r\n\t\t\t<div class=\"articleLinkSurTitle\">Recommended reading<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<a class=\"articleLinkImageLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/41906-will-fatou-bensouda-face-the-truth-commission-trrc-gambia.html\"><div class=\"articleLinkImageContainer \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"540\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/22c00db0cf6ed8e3c0b4a8f0fcbbea66-540x360.jpg\" class=\"articleLinkImage backgroundImageTag w-100 wp-post-image\" alt=\"The ICC prosecutor Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian national, speaks at the inauguration ceremony of the Truth, Reconciliation and Reparations Commission (TRRC) in The Gambia on 15 October 2018. On that day, many people in the audience said they were shocked by her presence.\" srcset=\"\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/div><\/a>\r\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/41906-will-fatou-bensouda-face-the-truth-commission-trrc-gambia.html\" class=\"articleLinkTitle articleLinkTitle--default\">\r\n\t\t\tWill Fatou Bensouda face the Truth Commission in Gambia?\r\n\t\t<\/a>\r\n\t\t\r\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"content-encadre\">\n<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"pull-left\" title=\"Asymmetrical Haircuts podcast\" src=\"media\/Asymmetrical-Haircuts-podcast_logo.png\" alt=\"Asymmetrical Haircuts podcast\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\">ASYMMETRICAL HAIRCUTS<br><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This podcast has been published as part of a partnership between JusticeInfo.net and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.asymmetricalhaircuts.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">Asymmetrical Haircuts<\/a>, a podcast on international justice produced from The Hague by journalists Janet Anderson and Stephanie van den Berg, who retain full control and independence over the contents of the podcast.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fatou Bensouda has given one of her last interviews as outgoing International Criminal Court Prosecutor to our correspondents and partners Asymmetrical Haircuts in The Hague. In this exclusive podcast, she talks about lessons learned from her failures in the cases of Kenyan leaders, Jean-Pierre Bemba and Laurent Gbagbo. Bensouda tells us investigative strategies have evolved [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":64,"featured_media":77445,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[562,569,13],"tags":[2657],"ji_location":[2567],"class_list":["post-77438","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-icc","category-podcast","category-uncategorized","tag-fatou-bensouda-en","ji_location-international"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.3.1 (Yoast SEO v25.3.1) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Fatou Bensouda: \u201cHistory will judge us\u201d - JusticeInfo.net<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Fatou Bensouda has given one of her last interviews as outgoing International Criminal Court Prosecutor to our correspondents and partners Asymmetrical Haircuts in The Hague. 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With no remorse or regrets, this Gambian prosecutor points to her successes in the trials of middle-ranking personalities and advises her successor, British lawyer Karim Khan, to stay away from politics. \u201cSomething that I have experienced is pressure, attacks and politicization [but] what we do in this office is critically important,\u201d she says. \u201cHistory will judge us.\u201d\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/77438-podcast-fatou-bensouda-history-will-judge-us.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Fatou Bensouda: \u201cHistory will judge us\u201d\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Fatou Bensouda has given one of her last interviews as outgoing International Criminal Court Prosecutor to our correspondents and partners Asymmetrical Haircuts in The Hague. 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