{"id":93205,"date":"2022-06-02T11:26:45","date_gmt":"2022-06-02T09:26:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/?p=93205"},"modified":"2023-11-30T22:51:23","modified_gmt":"2023-11-30T21:51:23","slug":"gambian-trial-germany-line-between-witness-suspect","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/93205-gambian-trial-germany-line-between-witness-suspect.html","title":{"rendered":"Gambian trial in Germany: the thin line between witness and suspect"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>In Celle, Germany, a former member of Gambia\u2019s notorious \u201cJunglers\u201d is accused of crimes against humanity. One of his former comrades, with a very similar background, was expected to come as a witness to shed light on the death squad\u2019s killing missions. Until he decided to make full use of his right not to self-incriminate.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p>The defendant and the witness have many things in common. Both are former military officers, both were part of Gambia\u2019s ex-dictator\u2019s notorious death squad known as the \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/42026-gambia-full-terror-exposed-before-the-trrc.html\">Junglers<\/a>\u201d, both have claimed that they were present and sitting in the same car during the deadly attacks on a journalist and a lawyer almost twenty years ago. The two men left the Junglers and their country behind at some point, and made their way to Germany. And both of them talked about their past to an oppositional Gambian radio station, revealing the details of the deadly attacks and their role in it. But on this day, in a German courtroom, there is one big difference between Bai Lowe and Sheriff Gisseh: Lowe is accused of crimes against humanity, while his former colleague is a free man, who has been summoned as a witness. The Gambia trial in Celle, Germany, has illustrated once again how fine the line between witness and suspect can be in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/tribunals\/universal-jurisdiction\">universal jurisdiction<\/a> cases.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/91253-gambian-dictatorship-crimes-trial-in-germany.html\">first trial<\/a> against a member of ex-dictator Yahya Jammeh\u2019s death squad started in the north-western German city of Celle on the 25<sup>th<\/sup> of April. Bai Lowe is accused of crimes against humanity in conjunction with two murders and one attempted murder. Germany is conducting the trial under the principle of universal jurisdiction, that allows states to prosecute the gravest crimes against international law, even when there is no direct link to the prosecuting country. Lowe is alleged to have been a member of the Junglers and to have carried out several of Jammeh\u2019s illegal orders to kill. <a href=\"https:\/\/oberlandesgericht-celle.niedersachsen.de\/startseite\/aktuelles\/presseinformationen\/state-security-proceedings-on-the-suspicion-of-crimes-against-humanity-in-gambia-210233.html\">According to the indictment<\/a>, \u201cthe aim of these operations was to intimidate the Gambian people and suppress the opposition.\u201d One of the victims was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/41925-gambia-the-media-was-the-most-persecuted-institution-under-jammeh.html\">journalist Deyda Hydara<\/a>, whose son Baba Hydara has joined the proceedings as a joint plaintiff. Bai Lowe is not accused of having killed anyone by his own hand, but of being the group\u2019s driver. He allegedly drove the killers to their missions and in one case used the car to block a victim\u2019s vehicle. Among the main evidence against Lowe is is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hrw.org\/sites\/default\/files\/media_2021\/03\/Full%20Transcript%20of%20Bai%20Lowe%202013%20Interview%20with%20Pa%20Nderry_0.pdf\">an interview he gave in 2013<\/a> to the oppositional US-based Freedom Radio, where he describes being present during the assassinations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Ex-Jungler remains silent<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>On Monday, Sheriff Gisseh was summoned by the court to testify. He, too, gave <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/panderrynewspaper\/gambian-soldier-admits-taking\">a lengthy radio interview<\/a> to journalist Pa N\u2019derry Mbai in 2014. There, he mentioned sitting in the car with Lowe, while his colleagues were shooting lawyer Ousman Sillah in December 2003 and journalist Deyda Hydara in 2004. However, when Gisseh appeared in court, he was not willing to repeat that statement. The 50-year-old was accompanied by a lawyer, who apparently had advised him to remain silent in order not to incriminate himself. With Gisseh being an ex-Jungler, the judges in Celle had been ready to inform the witness of his right to remain silent regarding certain information: \u201cHe is entitled to an extensive instruction in accordance with paragraph 55 [<em>the paragraph in German law that defines the right to remain silent in order not to self-incriminate<\/em>]\u201d, said Judge G\u00fcnther before inviting the witness into the courtroom. But it seemed they had not expected him to refuse to testify altogether \u2013 a quite short-notice decision, perhaps taken by Gisseh after consulting with his attorney that morning.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As Gisseh left the courtroom after just a few minutes, he passed by Lowe. The two former colleagues, both in casual sportswear, murmured some unintelligible words to each other. Then, an officer from the German federal police (BKA) was called in to summarize what Gisseh had told him in an interrogation in May 2021: that he and Lowe received military training from Libyan trainers at the end of the 90s; that they were subsequently recruited into the \u201cPatrol Team\u201d, which is known colloquially as the Junglers; that Lowe was the only driver of the team; that he, Gisseh, never killed anyone and always questioned the legality of these missions, which is why he lost his superiors\u2019 trust and left the army in 2005; that Lowe asked him why he left, claiming that \u201cit\u2019s all right and the money is good\u201d; and that Lowe was a \u201cdecent, respectful person, a good Muslim, who did not do drugs, drink or smoke\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Different statements on the radio, to the police and in court<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>According to the German police officer, however, the witness retracted what he had said on the radio about witnessing the killings of journalist Hydara and lawyer Sillah. With Lowe having been arrested two months prior to his police interrogation, Gisseh might have gotten worried. \u201cHe claimed that he had lied in the radio interview to make his statements more credible to the audience\u201d, said the BKA officer in court. Gisseh\u2019s statement on the radio does sound like a first-hand account. He lists the people who were in the car with him \u2013 among them Bai Lowe -, what type of car it was, who shot at Hydara and Sillah, and how he heard the victims screaming. But according to the BKA witness, \u201che said he only heard about the incidents from colleagues and in the media, and that he repeated what Bai Lowe had said in his radio interview.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He told the German police that he could not have participated in Hydara\u2019s assassination, because he was not asked to join such operations anymore at the time. He said that having lost the trust of his superiors he was only employed in office jobs. And during the attempt on Sillah\u2019s life, he claimed, he had been at his best friend\u2019s wedding. To the defence\u2019s question, whether the federal police had verified this information, the BKA officer responded that they had not conducted any further research into the matter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">He \u201djust sat in the car\u201d<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>After all, Gisseh was not questioned as a suspect but as a witness. Federal prosecutor Schmidt confirmed in court that to their understanding of his radio interview, Gisseh had \u201cjust sat in the car\u201d and therefore they had had no initial suspicion against him when they summoned him for questioning. However, she added, they had been prepared to change his status from witness to suspect during the interrogation, if relevant information had been provided.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She referred to the case of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/74369-syria-germany-symbolic-importance-first-conviction-syrian-regime-official.html\">Eyad Al-Ghareib<\/a>, the Syrian officer who was sentenced to four and a half years in prison by a German court for aiding and abetting crimes against humanity in Syria. He had started out as a witness to the BKA and became a suspect during his testimony. The prosecution, however, had not noticed until after his interrogation, and so had failed to inform him of his rights as a suspect. This mistake had proven a controversial issue throughout the whole trial and had been one of the crucial lines of Al-Ghareib\u2019s defence. The tightrope walk between witness and suspect might come up more often during universal jurisdiction cases in the future, especially when they rely so heavily on insider witnesses due to the distance in location and often time to the crime scene.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"articleLink articleLink--editorRecommanded articleLink--textInImage articleLink--textTop\" style=\"\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\r\n\t\t\t<div class=\"articleLinkSurTitle\">Recommended reading<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<a class=\"articleLinkImageLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/75788-gambia-spotlight-extraordinary-work-truth-commission.html\"><div class=\"articleLinkImageContainer \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"540\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gambia_TRRC-NIA_Video-In-Camera_ep3_@Justice-Info-540x360.jpg\" class=\"articleLinkImage backgroundImageTag w-100 wp-post-image\" alt=\"Yahya Jammeh and truth commission witnesses in The Gambia\" srcset=\"\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/div><\/a>\r\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.justiceinfo.net\/en\/75788-gambia-spotlight-extraordinary-work-truth-commission.html\" class=\"articleLinkTitle articleLinkTitle--default\">\r\n\t\t\tGambia: spotlight on the extraordinary work of the Truth Commission\r\n\t\t<\/a>\r\n\t\t\r\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In Celle, Germany, a former member of Gambia\u2019s notorious \u201cJunglers\u201d is accused of crimes against humanity. One of his former comrades, with a very similar background, was expected to come as a witness to shed light on the death squad\u2019s killing missions. Until he decided to make full use of his right not to self-incriminate.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":83,"featured_media":93193,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2801],"tags":[4116,2653,3311],"ji_location":[2509,2239],"class_list":["post-93205","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-universal-jurisdiction","tag-bai-lowe-en","tag-crime-against-humanity","tag-junglers-en","ji_location-gambia","ji_location-germany"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.3.1 (Yoast SEO v25.3.1) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Gambian trial in Germany: the thin line between witness and suspect - JusticeInfo.net<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"In Celle, Germany, a former member of Gambia\u2019s notorious \u201cJunglers\u201d is accused of crimes against humanity. 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